| Generation No. 2 | 
| 2. Alfred Message, butcher He was born 1848 at Heathfield, Sussex | 
| He married Charlotte on c 1869. She was born 1849 at Sandgate, Kent. They had the following children: | 
| i | Alice who was born 1873 Brixton, Surrey | 
| ii | Edith who was born 1874 Stockwell, Surrey | 
| iii | Alfred who was born 1876 Stockwell, Surrey | 
| iv | Harry who was born 1878 Merton, Surrey | 
| v | Edwin L. who was born 1880 Merton, Surrey | 
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| 3. Charlotte Message She was born 1849 at Sandgate, Kent | 
| She married Alfred Message, butcher on c 1869. He was born 1848 at Heathfield, Sussex. They had the following children: | 
| i | Alice who was born 1873 Brixton, Surrey | 
| ii | Edith who was born 1874 Stockwell, Surrey | 
| iii | Alfred who was born 1876 Stockwell, Surrey | 
| iv | Harry who was born 1878 Merton, Surrey | 
| v | Edwin L. who was born 1880 Merton, Surrey | 
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